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The OnLive desktop app first launched in January, offering iPad users remote access to a full version of Windows 7, including Microsoft Office.

Android tablet users can now join the Office party, "enjoying" Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint, as well as Adobe Reader.

The service also promises cloud-enhanced web speeds of up to a gigabit, producing a cloud-accelerated connection that slashes page-loading and streaming speeds regardless of home Wi-Fi speeds.

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The OnLive Desktop app is available now from the US Android Market for free, and there are a number of versions to suit your budget.

Desktop Standard is free, Desktop Plus is $4.99/month and Desktop Pro is coming soon at $9.99 along with 50GB of cloud storage. There will also be an Enterprise version for big businesses.

OnLive hasn't yet released details of when we'll see a UK offering, though we imagine it can't be far off.

You can see what we thought of OnLive Desktop on the iPad when we took it for a spin at CES in January, and check out the hype-tastic promo video for yourself on the OnLive Desktop site.

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Microsoft Demos Windows 8 on 82-inch Touchscreen

by Anand Lal Shimpi on 2/29/2012 10:31:00 AM
Posted in Systems , Trade Shows , Operating Systems , Microsoft , Windows 8 , MWC 2012

Microsoft is talking a lot about the importance of touch input to the Windows 8 experience in everything from tablets to high-end desktops. To show just how far you can go with touch, Microsoft demonstrated a PC running Windows 8 connected to an 82-inch touchscreen that can support up to 100 touch inputs (or 10 simultaneous users).

Gallery: Print This Article 21 Comments View All Comments Post a Comment Gorilla arm by Rick83 on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 Sure, it looks great in a demo, but so far all ergonomics and usability research has shown that this kind of UI does not work for any extended time frame.

On the other hand, instructors use black/whiteboards etc, so there's a potential use case in education, or, in fact, when doing demonstrations or presentations, but I fail to see how Windows has much to do with that, as in the end application support is what matters more.
Of course, if that means that there is a decent multi-touch API integrated into Windows 8, this may be of some interest.

Still, a bit too flashy for my taste. Rick83 Reply RE: Gorilla arm by ananduser on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 Nothing beats Apple flashy-ness. MS can try all they want. ananduser Reply RE: Gorilla arm by tipoo on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 True, but with a wireless keyboard and touchpad or mouse that could be kind of neat. I'd still opt for the regular TV plus connected HTPC though, that way you don't have to throw the whole thing out when something is outdated. I wonder if they'll work voice control into it, that could be good for home theatre. tipoo Reply RE: Gorilla arm by mcnabney on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 Welcome is 2007, except I use a 100" screen. mcnabney Reply RE: Gorilla arm by Kepe on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 You are absolutely right. Imagine (if you aren't already) sitting in front of your desktop PC. Now imagine if its monitor was a touch screen and you had Win 8 installed. Now imagine using your computer by reaching all the way to your monitor and touching it to accomplish something. I can't even reach my monitor without leaning forward. Can you imagine anything that could be *less* ergonomic? Neither can I.
Touch UIs only work when you can have the touch screen near your body and at about elbow height (or in your hand if it's a handheld device). Sure it would be cool gimmick for desktops, for about two minutes, in which time your arm will start to hurt and you'll notice how much easier it is to point at things on your screen using a mouse.
The Metro UI will be a huge failure on desktops. Maybe it would be ok if you could split your screen so that the other (say, right) half would be where the Metro UI with its live tiles resides, and on your left you could have the regular Windows desktop. I played around with the Developer Preview quite a bit when it came out, and found the Metro UI to be hugely restrictive and hard to operate. You just can't do what you want with it. Want to launch a program? Good luck trying to find the program search thingy and then typing in the name of the program you need. Instead of just going to the start menu and finding all your programs listed alphabetically there.
Windows is a platform on top of which applications run. Being able to quickly and effortlessly find and launch the applications you want is the main functionality. Not a fancy (touch) UI that shows the latest Facebook posts of your "friends" and the weather outside.
Well anyways, downloading the Consumer Preview now. I hope they have done something to make the thing less crippled. Kepe Reply RE: Gorilla arm by thrawn3 on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 I mostly agree with you but you forget one interesting way of applying this technology and that is Microsoft Surface. From what this article is saying it sounds like they have rolled in a lot of the same code into Windows 8.
I don't think there are any Gorilla arm problems with using a tabletop display and touch surface.

I haven't tried Windows 8 yet but the Consumer Preview is already downloading and I will see soon enough what I think of the design. thrawn3 Reply RE: Gorilla arm by Kepe on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 When I said "Touch UIs only work when you can have the touch screen near your body and at about elbow height" I meant things like the Surface. You need to have the touch screen at ~elbow height, close to you and tilted upwards for it to be ergonomic to use. Then it will work. Kepe Reply RE: Gorilla arm by mcnabney on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 Even then, imagine using this for an extended period of time?

Sure, playing with it for 20 minutes is neet-o. Think of using this for hours... Sorry, slight mouse movements and finger twitches when typing are far far far more usable than a touchscreen. I get annoyed using my smartphone's touchscreen for more than 30 minutes. mcnabney Reply RE: Gorilla arm by Chudilo on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 You, sir lack any sort of imagination. Imagine a desktop that is design with a touchscreen surface in mind (and By desktop I include the desk) If a High resolution (high DPI, mobile phone like pixel density) Multi-touch Monitor is anchored to your desk at about a 45 degree angle directly in front of you with a physical keyboard (that won't change until they have piezoelectric keyboards that will let you feel buttons on screen) at the bottom of of the display. (no mouse).
Precise (mouse-like) input for CAD and Photoshop is handled by moving stylus directly on the screen.

That is actually a more natural way of interacting with your computer. That's right, more natural then a mouse. You can drag windows by dragging them. select things by touching them. The current Chudilo Reply RE: Gorilla arm by This Guy on Thursday, March 01, 2012 Sounds like a touch screen laptop with a fixed screen angle, like the acer iconia w500. Using one for six months, I agree that it is often more natural to touch the screen than to use a keyboard/mouse or pointing stick.

The biggest flaw with these types of device is that there is not a touch screen element for precise input. Why can't Microsoft add a small box to Windows which you contol by rolling your finger? When you place your finger in the box, roll it twice to configure then the box works just like a pointing stick.

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Microsoft Giving Tegra 3, Snapdragon S4 Test PCs to WOA Developers

Posted 02/29/2012 at 5:39pm | by Pulkit Chandna 10CommentsPrint

Earlier today, Microsoft released the Windows 8 Consumer Preview (beta) at the 2012 Mobile World Congress (MWC) in Barcelona, giving the general public an opportunity to preview Windows 8 on existing x86 systems and provide feedback. But Microsoft’s “Consumer Preview” event wasn’t just all about the beta released today for x86-based PCs. The company also showcased a number of Windows 8 on ARM devices at today’s event.  Hit the jump for more.

Among the devices showcased today were tablets powered by ARM-based SoCs from NVIDIA (Tegra 3), Qualcomm (Snapdragon S4) and Texas Instruments (OMAP5430). Microsoft also announced a seeding program “to support the creation of compelling Metro style app and device experiences for Windows 8.” Soon after, NVIDIA and Qualcomm announced their support for Microsoft’s Windows on ARM developer seeding program in separate press releases.

As part of this invitation-only seeding program, developers and device makers will be furnished with Windows 8 test PCs based on NVIDIA’s Tegra 3 SoC and Qualcomm’s Snapdragon S4 chip. Texas Instruments has yet to make an announcement in this regard.

"NVIDIA has a long record of supporting software developers working on the cutting edge of innovation," said Tony Tamasi, senior vice president of content and technology at NVIDIA, in a press release. "We're furthering this tradition by helping to realize the extraordinary potential of Windows on ARM processors, like Tegra 3."

“Qualcomm is committed to the Windows on ARM ecosystem and knows that enabling developers is a crucial factor for its success,” said Luis Pineda, senior vice president of product management, computing and consumer products at Qualcomm. “We are now providing Snapdragon S4 test PCs with built-in 4G LTE, activated in some regions, to software application developers.”

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OCFRED February 29, 2012 at 10:04pm

There will be demand, spec addicted hardware phreaks will bemoan the umbrage and forget this is an X86/MS forum. Many consumers and businesses will continue to prefer a familiar and well supported environment and now will have the option of more varieties of hardware. I think a better approach for mobile devices is a stripped down BSD or other bare skeleton OS would make more sense on lightweight hardware with a Web/VM solution for legacy compatibility but the problem with that is cell carriers balking so much about bandwidth that folks on the go are left sniffing for WiFi like it's still 2004.

Mortal_M February 29, 2012 at 10:43pm

I'm about to just ditch my smartphone and use only my PC just because of that, some smart-asses decided that what the people want/need and what is best for us is using the "cloud" and given that everything nowadays takes a lot of space (MB wars on the digital cameras, HD on video, etc) I feel like I can't do much with my phone without exceeding those ridiculous data limits.
Do they still sell PDAs? it would be great to have one of today's smartphones without the phone in it, it would be more than sufficient for me, my carrier already makes me use WI-Fi whenever I can so I'll just use apps for txt, mail and phone calls.

OCFRED March 01, 2012 at 8:29pm

Do it, I went to a $50 dumb phone and still pack 8GB of media and enough web capability to synch with the Google suite; next to no data consumption and battery lasts for days.

loozer March 01, 2012 at 12:12pm

You can actually get a Samsung galaxy player for android or an ipod touch for iOS. It's like a phone without the phone.

loozer February 29, 2012 at 5:57pm

Later today, no developers actually want a WOA machine.

New Intel SOCs can do everything that ARM can and more. WOA is DOA.

Cregan89 February 29, 2012 at 7:21pm

I don't know... I don't think Intel SOC's are going to be able to fully compete with ARM in terms of power consumption and price for a couple years still.

And there's a lot of people that are going to be looking for cheap Windows 8 based tablets. And once the Windows store starts to fill out, these type of users will rarely ever leave the Metro interface, making ARM SOC's all they need.

Only time will tell I guess though.

loozer March 01, 2012 at 12:11pm

Rarely leave metro?

Users who don't want/need real applications will naturally move to the established iOS or Android offerings.

Even if intel laggs slightly, the huge advantage of "real" windows support should overcome any small SoC shortcomings.

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